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Houndshill shoppers' fury over car park delays



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Published Date: 10 October 2008
TOWN hall chiefs have been accused of creating car park chaos at Blackpool's state-of-the-art new shopping centre.
Drivers said they had to queue for up to two hours to get out of the car park at the Houndshill Centre in the resort as thousands of people descended on the complex.

Now the council has apologised for the mayhem and pledged to make changes.

Shoppers say the car park became gridlocked last Saturday but fear the problem will only get worse unless action is taken.

Houndshill manager John Holt said around 65,000 shoppers were in the centre that day – the busiest day in its history.

Mum-of-one Fiona Shaw, 36, who lives near Stanley Park, Blackpool, said it took her 45 minutes to get into the car park and an a hour and a half to get out after she parked on level five.

She said: "The new shopping centre is fabulous, but the parking has clearly not been thought out.

"This car park was never well designed, but it is now beyond belief and when Christmas shopping comes there will be a riot in there."

Another shopper, from Poulton, said: "I shall continue to shop at Preston using the park and ride service, or the Trafford Centre, as both can be reached in less time than I spent in the Houndshill car park on Saturday."

The 750-space car park is currently being operated by the council but is due to be handed over to NCP.

Shoppers pay for their ticket on foot using a machine in the centre before returning to their vehicle and exiting the car park via a barrier on to Coronation Street.

The council's executive director for business services, Julian Kearsley, said Houndshill was very popular and Saturday's car parking issues were as a direct result of the large number of visitors.

He said: "We apologise to everyone caught up in the delays and have called an urgent meeting with Modus who own the shopping centre to try to resolve the situation.

"Every factor will be considered including traffic flow, car park management and ways of reducing congestion."

The council has recently been forced to re-think the operation of Central Beach car park, which is used by football supporters, after a similar pay-on-foot system also led to congestion.

Tim Heatley, development director for Modus, said: "The council and ourselves are aware of the problems and we are working together to get a resolution as quickly as we can.

"The numbers using the centre have exceeded our expectations, with
around 300,000 people a week visiting Houndshill.

"The centre is proving very successful and we need to make sure we get the car parking right."

He added that last Saturday the barrier had been raised in order to let people out and clear the congestion.

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Ian Holt,

Blackpool 11/10/2008 13:49:45
yet another Gaffe by the not so wise and overpaid council officals
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fraggy,

bispham 11/10/2008 14:06:09
The new shopping centre is a great improvement from old, and once it's fully occupied it'll be even better. Personally I think the pay-on-foot system is a vast improvement from the pay and display system that was in place before, as there is no more scratching around for change once you have parked up. The system would be even better if they got the debit/credit card reader working like the Arndale Centre has so there would be no need to hunt for any cash. It's also better for car crime too as the lowlifes who wish to enter other peoples cars un-lawfully have no idea how long you could be away for.

The problem here I think is not the councils but the numpty's that refuse to read the signs that are displayed all over the place that they need to pay for their ticket before returning to their car. C'mon how difficult is it ? I was in those queues for about 20 mins around 11 last Saturday morning, and saw 3 lots of people who had become stuck at the barriers because they hadn't paid legging it to the pay machine - one of them in his wedding finest so maybe he was thinking of his day ahead rather than reading the signs ;-)

The improvement I would make to the car park though is to make going up and down the ramps a straight run rather than the tight turns that currently have to be negotiated as a lot of people come unstuck there and either ground their cars on the edges of the ramps (because they are not the widest are they Blackpool Council??) or try to re-position their car by reversing which is not the easiest if the is another car up your backside, and this can cause congestion rapidly.

My last point and I'd really like an answer to this - well done and thank you Blackpool Council for giving us cheaper parking (could this be a contributing factor why the Hounds Hill is busy ?), but once you hand over the reins to NCP are they going to putting the prices up to their usual extortionate rates ?

Have a good weekend ;-)
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Zim Flyer,

Blackpool 11/10/2008 14:38:47
Oh how sad car drivers are upset, they should use public transport instead and save the rest of us from their fuel polution.
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ched999uk,

South Shore 11/10/2008 15:29:13
Come on Blackpool Council, it is you that approved the plans for the improvements to Hounds Hill. The whole point was to increase shoppers to Blackpool and now the car park cant cope!!!! Doesn't bode well for future developments.
Maybe an easy solution in the sort term is to reduce the number of cars allowed to park in the car park and direct any excess to the Central Car park. Its not far to walk from Central car park to the Hounds Hill center. It would also help some of the surrounding businesses as people would walk from other car parks to Hounds Hill and pass other shops.
Get this sorted quick its not that long till the big Christmas rush!
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fraggy,

bispham 11/10/2008 16:05:25
zim flyer,

Those people who are in receipt of a free buss pass are laughing, and if I had one I'd be on the bus every time I wanted to go into town. However, the economics of making such a choice if you have a family is a total non-starter. It costs £3 return for each adult to go into town so making the cost of the trip for my wife and I and young child £6 on the bus when we can go by car for say £1 in fuel and 2 hours parking for £1. I think my opinion would be shared by many people - make public transport a financially sensible option and people will use it. I like travelling on the bus but I'll be damned if I'll pay £4 extra for the privilege !

One more thing - those buses don't exactly pump out clean air you know - they pollute too ! ;-)
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AbFab34,

12/10/2008 05:56:23
The person interviewed in the main story has it 100% right. Ignore Blackpool and go to Preston. Great park and ride, pleasant staff in the shops, clean toilets and surrounding areas. Blackpool may have a new shopping centre but the parking is atrocious; you have to put up with drunks, druggies, beggars and people pestering you to sell you lighters, Big Issue, after shave and perfume which they admit is cheap because they have been shoplifting! Blackpool Council approved the plans and as always, whatever their political colour, the council got it wrong!
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Blackpool Girl 1982,

Blackpool 12/10/2008 10:08:46
Forgive me for asking a daft question but why does anybody living near to Stanley Park need to drive to the Houndshill? Surely it would make more sense to hop on a bus (probably cheaper too!) or heaven forbid but walk.....!
Yes parking should be cheap, easy to use and plentiful but only for those who need to drive! How many of the cars stuck in the car park actually needed to be there?
It incenses me that Blackpool makes an improvement, gives local people what they've been asking for and then people and intent on trying to bring it down!
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Wrighty,

Bispham 12/10/2008 10:26:35
I agree pay on foot car parks are much better than pay and display. I regularly use the car park above Wilkinsons because it is a pay on foot.
The council's forward planning is not the best (this is the same council that is considering changing the Central Promenade from 4 lanes to 2!). Let us hope that they don't revert to pay and display.
My own suggestion would be to make Coronation Street one way between Adelaide Street and Albert Road so that queues don't build up as much on the road network when people are leaving the car park. To reach the car park the same route could be used as when Coronaion Street was partly closed.

I agree Blackpool needs a park and ride, but it will have to be at J4 of the M55 rather than amongst the Yeadon Way car parks. However it may actually not be of much use for majority of Fylde Coast residents.

Regarding Preston being cleaner etc; I recently parked in the multi storey above the bus station when I watched Dara O'Briain at the Guildhall. My wife and I, along with hundreds of others, were met with a beggar partially blocking the pedestrian exit from the car park to the Guildhall complex. Nice! If that was Blackpool there would have been letters galore from the theatregoers in the Gazette to proudly state that they would never visit the resort again!! That is without mentioning the charge for car parking which was at least as much as in Blackpool.
My own thoughts on the beggar were that ALL large towns have them and it is merely a fact of life. I will probably visit the Guildhall again regardless.
I would also point out that Big Issue sellers regularly operate in Lytham at luch time and Lytham is a far more prosperous and pleasant place than Preston!
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